Mamiya models RE: [KOML] Koni Models - Definitive List?

[Robert Monaghan <rmonagha@post.cis.smu.edu>]

there is some info on the mamiya universal page relating to dates, model info
at http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/mamiyauniv.html

re: Mamiya Universal
predecessor introduced in 1962 (90mm lens) 
Mamiya Universal  introduced in April 1969 
  several versions produced - chrome and black 
  last model made in 1991 

Personally, I think that the entire line of press cameras from the 
Simmons Brothers Omega 120 to the last Mamiya Universal Press model of 
1991 are of one lineage (like the Rittrick/Warner/Norita 66) and design 
concept. 

I think it would be more useful for newbies if we ultimately 
covered the entire lineage of related press cameras, including the 
earlier Omegas and the Konica Press variants up through the Mamiya press 
series. The problems are mostly the same, but some may only be solved in 
the later Mamiya models...

For one thing, if you really like the KOs, then you will probably 
find some of the refinements of the later Mamiya production runs to be at 
least worth knowing about, and possibly a solution to a few KO rangefinder 
related problems due to enhanced flexibility and lenses for the mamiyas...

I am particularly impressed by the flexibility and lens choices of the
Mamiya Universal - a truly system approach to press cameras and the
ultimate development of this concept and lineage. Check out the Mamiya 
press pages URL above to see some article exerpts/summaries for details...

The current Mamiya 6/6MF and Mamiya 7 are totally different. Mamiya press 
(standard, model 23, and universal) owners have much more in common with 
KO than anything else, for the above reasons, but don't seem to have a 
list yet ;-)  Might be an idea to expand our current scope to include them...

regards - bobm

* Robert Monaghan POB752182 Dallas Tx 75275-2182 rmonagha@post.cis.smu.edu  *
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Clive Warren wrote:

> At 7:18 am -0700 24/4/98, Kotsinadelis, Peter wrote:
> 
> >  McKeown's is not always correct.  I have a document form Konica
> >  that details their camera's and release dates.  Will check and
> >  see if these are similar.  Incidentally, the Press 1 and 2 are
> >  Japanese market equivalents of the Rapid 100 and 200.
> >
> >  Peter K
> 
> 
> That's for sure - still a great reference source though even if not
> definitive.  It would be great if you could confirm the date's for use ,
> thanks Peter.
> 
> Do you know anything about the period in manufacture when Mamiya became
> involved?  It seems as though you are saying that the Konica Press 1 and 2
> models were made by Mamiya after Konica sold them the manufacturing rights
> and presumably all of the spares?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
>               Clive   http://clive.bel-epa.com
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